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Posted by hostingneeds, 07-03-2003, 04:09 PM
I am currently looking at 2 plans (well actually 4 all together, but am trying to focus on 2) and can not decide. Please if anyone has experience or advice on either of these hosts let me know. The two packages I am looking at are: The 59.95 + 9.99 for CPanel deal from nocster for the managed dedicated. It has 30GB storage and 100GB transfer. I like the no setup and low cost. I am worried about overselling bandwidth (100GB seems like a lot for that price) and the actual machine it is on. It is a Cel 1.0 with 256 RAM? Anyone have a site hosted on this that I could see. I mainly need this account for myself but may resell to a few friends. I have phpbb board that is fairly active and worry about slowness, should this be a concern? The other is a plan I am looking at from webreseller. It is a special they have for 82 with 20 setup that has 15GB storage and 100GB transfer. It is not managed dedicated, but virtual private setup and has cpanel. I like the look of them and have seen a lot of good comments in regards to them (other than when the center went down). They also seem to have a little more reasonable bandwidth allowances on most plans not on special (i think normally it is 30GB transfer for the plan). I have no ideas what their servers are or their datacenter? I am still new to figuring out the hosting but would love some responses as to which you would choose.

Posted by centrahost, 07-03-2003, 04:35 PM
Hosting resller accounts on a dinky little Celeron 1.0 with 256 megs of ram is a bad idea. Look around.

Posted by hostingneeds, 07-04-2003, 06:16 AM
What about the performance of a small server for just my site? Would it run very slow with a moderate traffic forum? Anyone have any experience with webreseller?

Posted by WebFX, 07-04-2003, 07:59 AM
If it's just for your own website then a little Celeron isn't a bad idea. It'll give you much more freedom as you can control processes etc.

Posted by webideas, 07-04-2003, 04:57 PM
For the amount you are planning to pay to Nocster you'll get a couple of people who'd like to share a p4 server at RS or other DC. Why not find a partner who'll take 350 GB transfer & 40 GB Disk Space out of a 80 GB/700 GB server of RS

Posted by hostingneeds, 07-04-2003, 06:15 PM
I had debated on sharing server and thought that would be an option. Unfotunetly I am looking for something with managed services and do not personally know someone I would feel comfortable in partnership with. If I knew someone it would be the best option. Anythoughts on webreseller vps plans? I thought it was reasonable for a vps and have seen a lot of good references about them. Also I liked that I would not have to worry about managing it. I feel with a little time I could manage server, but would mainly be concerned with security issues and the like. Eventually I will have to break down and learn another trait.

Posted by Website Rob, 07-04-2003, 09:22 PM
hostingneeds, I would also say there is something, 'not quite right' with the Nocster deal. Although I don't know all the particulars and base on what you stated above, it sounds like a VPS setup. A Server using only a 30GB hard drive is very outdated. If it is a true Dedicated Server with a 30GB hard drive, odds are they have old equipment lying around that they are still trying to make few bucks on. Old hardware can only mean problems for you. 256 MB of RAM is the 'bare minimum' for running a Server. Once you get some scripts installed and running a few mySQL databases, it will run pretty slow. Remember, there are lots of other processes running, taking up CPU & RAM, besides what is used by any Hosting accounts. VPS is still fairly new and most people don't realize they only get a portion of the total Server resources. One must ask very specific questions as to what 'exactly' they get with their VPS. You did mention, "I am still new to figuring out the hosting", but not whether you have/had a Reseller account. If not, I would suggest you start at that level and get used to a Control Panel you plan on working with. This will give you two levels of experience & knowledge: a Reseller Control Panel and the Client Control Panel. This way, once you start running a Server, you know the difference between problems created by: the OS, the Server Control Panel vs. the Reseller or Client Control Panel, and last but not least, problems created by people installing various scripts in their account. WHM/Cpanel for the Control Panel used is a very good choice. If you're not familiar with Control Panels, WHM/Cpanel is a very popular one and used by/familiar to, a lot of people. That also helps when looking to get Clients or setting up accounts for people you know.

Posted by mrzippy, 07-06-2003, 05:06 AM
Excellent post Website Rob.

Posted by NyteOwl, 07-06-2003, 03:10 PM
For a reasonable number of sites the Celeron should be fine. There are many many sites out there hosted on RAQ 4's and they are only a K6-2/450MHz and 512M ram at maximum. I agree that I would not use a 1GHz Celeron for hosting reseller accounts since granularity of account control is diminished. If you are going to be using a moderate amount of scripting and/or database I'd go for an additional 256M at least.



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