cloud.com vs onapp.com ?

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Posted by tulix, 03-15-2011, 12:45 AM
Can you share with your experience with these two cloud software providers or can somebody point me to a comparison between the two on the Internet?
Posted by ecocozza, 03-15-2011, 10:33 AM
I'm looking (and can't seem to find this as well).
Posted by Deltabee, 03-15-2011, 09:10 PM
is cloud.com (cloudstack) based on openstack? I read they're a contributor to openstack, so i'm assuming so. (Can't find anything either or for this http://www.ubuntu.com/business/cloud/overview)
Posted by evildon, 03-16-2011, 12:36 AM
I have worked with onapp.com cloud software and so far it has been good for me and my clients. Never got a chance to work with the Cloud.com platform. will need to try that. Thanks
Posted by boskone, 03-16-2011, 09:42 AM
OnApp all the way. Cloud.com isn't ideal for hosters - onapp is built for us.
Posted by viabandwidth, 03-16-2011, 10:32 AM
There is no whitepaper, though there should be. Here are the differences I know of. 1. The UI is far better in OnApp than in Cloud.com 2. The log files are better in OnApp as they give a full description of the events in the raw log format. I understand Cloud.com doesn't. 3. Cloud.com will allow end users to manipulate port settings and I think firewall settings in general. OnApp does not allow this because there is potential to interfere with both HA and Hot Migration. If that happens and it's the clients fault, you STILL get blamed. There is only so much freedom one should give to a customer 8-). However, I do see the advantage to allow users to do that. 4. cloud.com Backup settings allow the end-users to schedule deletion of backups. 5. Cloud.com supports KVM, XEN and VMware Vcenter or vpshere ..I cant remember. OnApp has vmware support on the roadmap and should be out soon anyway. OnApp supports XEN and KVM currently. And yes, like the previous post stated, cloud.com is NOT made for our market, but onapp is. Does this help you?
Posted by CRego3D, 03-16-2011, 10:50 AM
Just a small note, in 2.1.1 we introduce the ability for user to set firewall settings utilising our CIM (Client Isolation Module) setup, fully compatible with HA and HM, and with 0 footprint cost to the host :-)
Posted by mazedk, 03-16-2011, 02:51 PM
Hey Carlos Do you have any idea as to when the vmware support will be added?
Posted by AL-Benjamin, 03-16-2011, 06:14 PM
cloud is more akin to Amazon S3, whereas onapp is built for the industry. Currently onapp is the way to go for hosting.
Posted by mrhinkle, 03-16-2011, 07:17 PM
I am the open source community manager for Cloud.com and just wanted to clarify a few things: Cloud.com's product CloudStack is build for delivering IaaS compute clouds for service providers and enterprises alike. We have approximately 30 hosting providers using CloudStack to deliver infrastructure-as-as-service, including the following: TATA Communications InstaCompute Logicworks Infinicloud Appica GreenQloud You can download CloudStack[/URL] for free and deliver virtualized hosting using Xenserver, Xen Cloud Platform or KVM. Our commercial services include support for VMware and services to create your own cloud portal and integration with billing systems. @deltabee - Our cloud compute platform is our own built using Java, we are a contributor to OpenStack but their Nova code is built on Python. @AL-Benjamin Cloud.com is more akin to Amazon EC2 than S3 except you host the cloud on your own hardware not theirs. @viabandwidth We just release CloudStack 2.2 with a new UI yesterday. Hopefully you will see that as an improvement. Hopefully this was helpful but if you have more questions feel free to post them here or drop me a line. Regards, Mark Hinkle VP of Community Cloud.com t: @mrhinkle e: mrhinkle@cloud.com
Posted by Linuxboxadmin, 03-17-2011, 01:22 PM
Onapp the best
Posted by viabandwidth, 03-17-2011, 01:40 PM
Hi Mrhinkle, I was wondering when cloud.com would get in here and start providing input into the community. Do you have a video showing your new UI...admin and user side? While many say that OnApp is for the hosting industry, they mean for the mass market hosting part...enterprise is something very different. Cloud.com may probably be better for enterprise, though just telling me it's opensource is not going to convince anyone that this is a better solution. There are a number of cloud vendors out there in the IaaS world (over 400 last I checked). Many offer the same "core" benefits, but they differ in specialization...ie. Health, banking, legal industries or workloads and task oriented...integrated clustering specializing in certain third party hardware and or software blah blah. Many people know what OnApp can do here..what is your strength and what are your weaknesses. That weaknesses may be difficult to answer if you are trying to land sales, but people respect honesty and I think if you're straight forward from the getgo, people here will defo take that into consideration.

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